Comments on: Hands-on: CREAL’s Light-field Display Brings a New Layer of Immersion to AR

By: Nevets

Nevets — Mon, 17 Jul 2023 06:47:00 +0000

Anyone heard if it can correct astigmatism? A lot of the population have this.

By: wheeler

wheeler — Thu, 08 Jun 2023 13:16:00 +0000

I wonder how hard is it to sell people on the idea of lightfields. I mean, I believe a proper simulation of one is absolutely essential for the future of both VR and AR. So many potential use cases of VR and AR are basically irrelevant until this problem is addressed, and I find it quite frustrating when XR fanatics seem to deliberately ignore this elephant in the room (even though it’s associated problems are so well studied). Improve any other facet of the display to whatever degree that you please (in fact, I’d say we’re already “good enough” when it comes to many other metrics)–it won’t matter until the fatigue and perceptual conflicts caused by stereo flat displays are solved.

But it seems like it’s such a hard thing to explain. What I’ve personally come to find is that people don’t understand how both light and vision work, and so they don’t understand how stupendously lacking regular stereo flat displays are. It doesn’t help that I’ve yet to see one article or video that even explains it well, most opting for vague explanations like “it makes things blurrier”. If one explains it this way rather than explaining the 3d dimensional nature of light, it makes the entire concept seem completely inconsequential to the average person.

And even when demoing one I can imagine many would not immediately understand the value, as they would probably take it for granted (SkarredGhost actually mentioned how easy it is to “take it for granted”). And then when going back to their regular VR displays hours/days later, they probably don’t understand what is actually causing them discomfort. If I were to demo these lightfield displays, I would probably have a “stereo flat mode” in the lightfield headset and have the user A/B test the two so that they may see the difference side by side. But even then, the major discomfort does not occur with stereo displays until the 15 minute mark or so.

By: GmailIsDown

GmailIsDown — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 20:28:00 +0000

I hope in a few years all the major VR/AR headset companies will integrate your technology after overcoming the current limitations and hurdles. If my understanding of the article is correct, it solves a fundamental issue that has been bothering people since the beginning of VR – difficulty/inability to focus on scenes and objects very close to the eyes comfortably.

By: CrusaderCaracal

CrusaderCaracal — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 04:43:00 +0000

You always have something to whine about

By: CrusaderCaracal

CrusaderCaracal — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 04:43:00 +0000

Hey mate. You’re best off blocking him, he’s a well known troll and has nothing good to contribute. All he does is just whine and get angry at people for liking stuff he doesnt

By: Tomas S

Tomas S — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 08:46:00 +0000

Hi silvaring. Glad to hear that. In fact the headset is almost two years old. Since then we work on a significantly smaller display. Ben shows the proof of concept of it – the one with the normal lens – you can see a mockup of the target form factor on the same photo, on the table in the background. We hope to reach it still this year. Max early next year. We have roadmap to even smaller one.

Yes, we know each other with Karl Guttag quite well, but I cannot speculate when and what Karl writes.

By: silvaring

silvaring — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 06:31:00 +0000

I’m quite surprised to be seeing a light field display in a headset form factor. I’m guessing the main challenges here are going to be numerous, especially if Magic Leap (who’s original larger prototype) seemed to struggle at getting the technology down to a compact size. Have you guys been communicating with Karl Guttag to have something published on your technology? He seems to be one of the most insightful and well established industry voices to really bring the average tech enthusiast in and make them more familiar with your guys tech and where the biggest challenges would be.

By: ViRGiN

ViRGiN — Sun, 04 Jun 2023 20:15:00 +0000

Fair enough. Appreciate dropping by.

By: Max-Dmg

Max-Dmg — Sun, 04 Jun 2023 19:16:00 +0000

He trolls everything, just ignore him lol.

By: Tomas S

Tomas S — Sun, 04 Jun 2023 18:39:00 +0000

Hi ViRGiN, I understand your concern and even share frustration from the market. XR is very hard. But CREAL has a different business model. We (I am from CREAL) are a display technology company. We don’t make or plan to make headsets. What we show are technology demonstrators. We integrate and license display to products of others. Example of such model is Microvision with its display tech in MS Hololense. Hence you won’t see a CREAL headset, maximally “CREAL inside” label.
We do it for wider range of products including vision care instruments, see our web. AR is however our main mission and dream.
Whether anyone cares about our tech is just not public. So stay tuned.

By: Ookami

Ookami — Sun, 04 Jun 2023 07:26:00 +0000

imo lightfield is the future of vr. I can’t wait to see mainstream headsets start using it

By: ViRGiN

ViRGiN — Sun, 04 Jun 2023 02:42:00 +0000

sounds like a company who wants to get bougt, but nobody cares

what was the last acquisition or products released by the underdogs?
everyone paints picture of greatness

everything here has strong revolutionary kickstarter vibes.
meanwhile, nothing ever crowdfunded came really to reality or goals.
lynx r1? arpara? pimax?
laughing my a$$ off

By: TonyVT SkarredGhost

TonyVT SkarredGhost — Sun, 04 Jun 2023 02:13:00 +0000

I’m following this company as well after your initial recommendation, Ben, and I agree it is one of the most interesting startups around. The VR scene the lightfield display creates is “more 3D”, feels more real, and it is just amazing