Comments on: Meta Wants Android Play Store Apps Officially on Quest but Google “didn’t want to” https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/ Virtual Reality News Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.26 By: Ardra Diva https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-204204 Mon, 04 Dec 2023 21:12:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-204204 i can’t think of much in the Google Play store I want to do while wearing a visor. It’s nowhere near ready to be a workplace medium for an 8 hour workday, and if the games aren’t VR/AR, I am not much interested in playing them with a visor on my face. The visor needs to be justified as the only way the experience can be delivered, or there’s no point in it.

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By: VRNerd https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203614 Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:13:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203614 That would be amazing. I remember doing this on GearVR and it was great having full Google Play store in VR.

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By: eadVrim https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203548 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 14:18:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203548 It would be nice to play some 2D Android board games like Soccer Stars in huge passthrough table plan. With use of finger tracking.

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By: Orogogus https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203529 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 07:07:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203529 “Also, it was Valve the one who didn’t allow support for the Oculus PC store, at least according to Palmer Luckey”

I have a reply sitting in Disqus limbo for several hours now, I think since I included a Reddit link. So without the link:

Luckey implied that pretty strongly at one point, but I think the evidence suggests that he was either mistaken or lying.

1. Luckey said that Oculus couldn’t get the Oculus store and apps working with the Vive without access to the Vive’s SDK. But you know, a rando made ReVive and totally got the Oculus store and apps working with the Vive and other headsets. Was that one guy just a better programmer than everyone at Oculus?

2. Shortly afterwards, it was Oculus that tried to block ReVive. They only backed down once the developer was about to release a new bypass that would completely circumvent the Rift’s DRM, breaking it wide open for piracy. Valve never took any action against ReVive, even though Luckey suggested that Oculus wanted its apps on the Vive and Valve didn’t.

3. But let’s say Valve really wouldn’t play ball with Oculus to let Oculus apps onto their headset. What about Microsoft, HP, HTC, Pimax, Lenovo and every other headset manufacturer? They can all run SteamVR games but none of them have access to the Oculus store. Did every one of these companies turn their nose up at Oculus? Even ones like Samsung who don’t even have their own storefront? None of them thought it would be worth the competitive advantage? Or is it more likely that Oculus just wasn’t willing to cooperate despite what Luckey said?

4. Someone asked Gabe point blank whether Valve was blocking the Oculus store or otherwise refusing to cooperate (this was where I had a Reddit link). His answer, according to the Reddit poster, was “No.”

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By: ApocalypseShadow https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203527 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 06:01:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203527 Just as I said in another article. Facebook needs to compete with what they know is coming. Apple is a cellphone provider that can easily offer their headset to cellular providers. Their apps WILL be on their headset making the transition smooth as silk from a phone to a headset and or glasses.

Google with Samsung, which is Apple’s competitor, has apps that WILL translate over to a headset and or glasses making the transition easier for consumers to use from their Android Galaxy phones.

Facebook is begging developers to bring those Android apps to their headset. Because they know they are not a cellphone provider, don’t have the catalog of apps that the other two future competitors do. And unlike Facebook, Apple is capable of selling hardware that is around $1,000-$1,500. Facebook couldn’t sell Quest Pro at $1,500 or at $1,000. Samsung even gets away with selling high priced phones. That’s real competition when they can do it but Facebook can’t. That’s why Quest 3 is being pushed now and into 2024 with AR. Because they have AR glasses coming that needs apps.

Vision Pro is only a warm up to what’s coming. A cheaper Vision headset is coming that will be no different in price to an iPhone that already sells very well for $1,000 without a contract. But it will have Vision Pro features. Apple, can also pair with cellular providers to subsidize the cost over a year or two contract and those headsets will have all the popular apps, will have calling and messaging and play games and entertainment.

This is what Facebook is scared of. Maybe they could pair off with Amazon and add those apps. Smarter thing would have been them completing their OS instead of abandoning it for Microsoft’s benefit.

Gamers think VR is the only thing going on. They only think it’s about PC and stand alone and console VR. They better wake up. There’s a bigger war brewing right smack in their face. Quest 3 having mixed reality is more Facebook preparing developers to make AR software that can be added to glasses than being about VR and AR gaming. I love VR. But there’s more going on. And when those bigger companies jump in, Facebook has a real war coming. Laughing about $3,500 when that’s not the future price and product Apple will be selling. It’s just a high end preview.

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By: ViRGiN https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203522 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:48:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203522 > if they don’t want their plateform being crushed within a few years when true competition arrives.
you can read this at any point in time, and it’s never true.

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By: xyzs https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203512 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 01:52:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203512 Because Google plans to do an Android VR OS in front of visionOS,
with a similar economic model as current Android.
Why would they give that advantage to Meta for free ?

Meta should really start to clean up their messed up ecosystem and make an OS that can run on alternative hardware if they don’t want their plateform being crushed within a few years when true competition arrives.

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By: Orogogus https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203506 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 01:01:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203506 “MS doesn’t make phones anymore.”

If the idea is that Google keeps their Play Store off competitors’ hardware since people won’t buy an Android phone if they can get the apps elsewhere, I think a Surface Pro is a much more significant threat than a Quest.

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By: ViRGiN https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203505 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 00:32:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203505 as a valve supporter, i’m going to dismiss official source and stick to narrative that valve would never do any wrong

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By: another juan https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203504 Tue, 14 Nov 2023 00:12:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203504 Pretty sure it was Valve the one who didn’t allow support for the Oculus PC store, at least according to Palmer Luckey

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By: wheeler https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203491 Mon, 13 Nov 2023 22:54:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203491 Without more details on the terms of both parties, it’s hard to draw much from Boz’s statement

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By: Guest https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203485 Mon, 13 Nov 2023 22:28:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203485 They are just scared some glasses are going to take their duopoly of cellphones so it’s much easier for them to takeover and discontinue any treats.

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By: Michael Fuller https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203479 Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:37:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203479 You can already install APK’s on the Quest 2/3 without a PC or Developer account needed. My App Mobile VR Station, available in AppLab, can display the Scoped Storage dialog and Meta forgot to remove the feature to install APK’s via Scoped Storage by clicking the little 4 point arrow over the APK in your download folder. I sent in a bug report 5 months ago, it went nowhere, so I’m going to assume they don’t care. Now this won’t help apps that need Google Play Services, but you can get a bunch of different apps, including SideQuest. Also it won’t work with Quest 1, since it needs Android 12 to get Scoped Storage.

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By: Orogogus https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203474 Mon, 13 Nov 2023 19:30:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203474 Google Play is now on PC, how does that fit into that strategy?

Although, Meta can choke on it. Users of the Vive and other VR headsets wanted to buy and play Oculus Rift games on their gear, but Facebook never opened that up either. So this seems pretty hypocritical of them.

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By: another juan https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-quest-3-play-store-google-blocked/#comment-203466 Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:38:00 +0000 https://www.roadtovr.com/?p=115014#comment-203466 I don’t think anyone was seriously expecting Google giving a competitor access to their biggest asset.
Play Store and App Store are the way Google + Apple are gonna leverage their current duopoly into the next generation devices, unless something exceptional happens.

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